

Kazaa, LimeWire and similar products were proprietary for-profit software that made money with copyright infringement. LimeWire was opensourced later on.


Kazaa, LimeWire and similar products were proprietary for-profit software that made money with copyright infringement. LimeWire was opensourced later on.


Ironically, on Github


Only partially helpful. For me, when I open up issues archive.org often only has the first post in the thread. Often the stuff is months outdated.
Don’t get me wrong, the Wayback Machine is an incredibly amazing piece of tech and I use it all the time. But it’s a less-than-satisfactory replacement for a working Github.


I’m pretty sure it’s exactly that. Electric engines during takeoff and landing would also decrease noise pollution near humans.


Because it’s new tech, and any time there’s new tech it takes the judicial system around 20 years to figure out that old laws still apply even in the context of new tech.
Remember how long it took for copyright to become somewhat relevant on the internet?
Or how long it took for murder threats to become illegal on the internet?
When I was growing up it was totally 100% to be expected that once you step online, especially in games, someone will graphicly threaten to murder and rape you and your entire family in an arbitrary order.
Stuff like that would have gotten you in legal trouble instantly if you said that in real life, but online it was totally fine for a very long time.


This here. FOSS as a dedicated concept exists since around 40 years and we still haven’t figured out how to fund it.
The only meaningful way to fund FOSS is the Linux way: Coprorations use the FOSS in a way where they can’t sell the software directly, instead, the software is used as infrastructure to make money another way.
Microsoft, Amazon, Oracle and so on, they make money by selling cloud compute running Linux. To do so, Linux needs to be really good, so they contribute developer time too the Linux kernel and to certain tools.
The same strategy works for programming frameworks, like Angular, which is being developed by Google, because Google uses it in tons of their products.
But this doesn’t work for end customer software and it’s basically impossible to get a “grassroots” developed piece of FOSS into the corporate mill.


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Looks like you have never tried to monetize FOSS.
It’s close to impossible. Look at heartbleed or the xz disaster. Two fundamental pieces of software used on billions of devices, neither of them made enough money for a single full-time dev.
And you are suggesting that one can make enough money from a FOSS REST client?
Look at breadsmasher’s original comment. There’s not a word in there about “betraying FOSS ideals”, nor does it contain a complaint about “closing the source”.
No, the whole comment is “Fuck Thunder REST because they want me to pay for features”. Breadsmasher is a freeloader. He would never donate anything. He uses FOSS, not because he wants freedom as in free speech, nor does he use it because he wants to review or modify the source. He uses FOSS for the “free as in free beer” aspect.
And when someone says “Now please contribute to a project you’ve been using for free”, he gets entitled and throws a fit like a two-year-old.


Heat is the worst form of energy. It’s super hard to extract energy at all from it. Basically, you can’t extract energy from heat itself, you can only extract it through the process of heating something up. So you always need a cold component that gets heated up and a hot component that does the heating.
Without a cold component, you can’t extract energy from heat.


It is pretty standard, but the narrative is wrong. In reality it’s more like this:
Build a little tool for yourself. It’s small, it’s simple. Someone else sees it and likes it, so you open-source it. People start using it, and it feels good. The hobby project starts consuming more and more time.
Companies start using it. Bug reports and feature requests pile up. Users who see themselves as customers without ever having paid a cent for it start to demand bugfixes and features. Toxic, entitled people kill the mood and the hobby project seriously isn’t fun anymore.
Nobody contributes or donates, they just demand.
So now you got a choice: drop your hobby project or go professional.
What you are seeing in the OP or with Thunder REST is the second option: People going professional. Cause that means money is coming in, the main dev can quit their day job and maybe even hire some extra staff to deal with the workload and with pesky entitled users.
So to you now, breadsmasher: You seem to think that you are entitled to free updates for Thundar REST. I guess you contributed significant amounts of code to it or donated significant amounts of money to it?
You did do that, right?
You aren’t just demanding other people to work for free for you, right?
Because if you did that, that would be seriously shitty of you. But I’m sure you aren’t that kind of person, are you?


Don’t worry, the phones don’t have to be repairable as long as they are waterproof.
Windows 8 didn’t have a reason to look like a child drew the UI in paint. I remember well the moment I first booted up the technical preview of Windows 8, being flabbergasted by how bad it looked. I choked it up to being a technical preview, they likely didn’t get around to put decent graphics in, but no, it stayed like that.
Windows 8 also didn’t have a reason to go touch-first (and really touch-only) on the UI for a OS with a non-touch install base of around 99+%. That’s terrible UX.
Any decent UI/UX guy would have been able to tell them that they should make the UI switch between desktop mode and touch mode depending on what hardware was present or which mode the user selected.
As you said, it was “only” an hour of fiddling with the registry to bring it back, so it was mostly there. A decent UI/UX designer would have just added a button or an autoselection feature.
But since they said “screw professionals, let the managers do the design” you got shitty UI/UX that caused a massive flop.
The parallel I was drawing that with Win11 and the help of AI they are doing the same. They fire the experts and have the managers and other non-experts do the job of the experts and it falls apart.
Offtopic:
frameworks intended for fucking websites,
You know who also does that? GNOME. The whole GNOME DE is coded in JavaScript.
What does being technically solid have to do with UX?
Reminds me of that one time when Microsoft said “We don’t need UI/UX designers, powerpoint is so easy that managers can do UI/UX design themselves”.
That’s how we got Windows 8.
Germany alone pays €200mio per year to Microsoft. Imagine what would happen if this money would go to FOSS development instead? And imagine what would happen if all EU countries would follow suit?
And now the really crazy part: what if they all didn’t do their own little thing but instead pooled resources? That would overtake Microsoft within months.
I wish all these European Linux projects would pool resources and create one good solution instead of each little country or even city DIYing their own solution.
Yeah, that’s what I really don’t get.
Why would any serious company think it’s a great idea to outsource all your intelligence work to a handfull of US companies, making yourself wholely dependant on their goodwill and the goodwill of the US government?


At first, I thought it was an attack using audio only. That would have been crazy impressive.


Look up the Oxygen Catastropy, also called Oxygen Holocaust.
That’s what happens if too much carbon is removed from the atmosphere and thus there’s too much oxygen in it.
Yeah, go tell that to your company’s IT department.
That’s what WSL is used for: keeping developers somewhat sane in a company that’s Windows-only.