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Wait, you mean the people that hoard all of our resources and don’t pay taxes will leave? Oh noes! 😱 What will we do without them…

LoL, that wasn’t the original internet. That was years after the internet had been around.

What is the gain? What is a single gain you think they have milked from their users?

But nobody pays for Firefox? Do you mean the “recommended pages”?

The Democrats generally don’t try to earn votes. They generally only try to appeal to their rich donors. If people stopped voting Blue No Matter Who, and started voting for other parties, then the Democratic Party would either die off, or would have to start fighting to earn votes.

They get money from Google, advertisements, and selling data. Did you think Mozilla made it without paying their employees and executives?

Money for their executives

I wish. I love weed, and it’s waaaaaaay safer than alcohol, but it does have drawbacks. It gives me a lot of anxiety. I know some people who’ve had issues with Schizophrenia. And I know others who’ve had interference with their athsma.

It’s because we let the Democrats get away with being awful. Their goal is to be barely less evil than Republicans. If they had to actually fight for votes, we’d start to see results.

Well then maybe the Democrats should stop following and supporting the Republican policy.

“…from email to LLMs, that nobody self-hosts”

As someone that self-hosts those things, both professionally and personally, I’m gonna have to disagree. I wish more did, but there are plenty of self-hosters out there, they just don’t get headlines.

I get what your saying, and to some extent I agree. But I also don’t think that they would be fighting fascism if they had more power. When they were the majority, they spent their time building up the systems that the fascists are using. They built up the surveillance state, immigration control, torture programs and the police/military powers. They should have spent their time dismantling it, but the Democratics have the mindset of “It’s OK when the Blue Team does these things. Surely the Red Team won’t use that against us!”

It seems to me that they do know how voting works in America: If you keep voting for pro-genocide candidates, you keep getting genocide. Maybe one of the two major parties should try running an anti-genocide candidate.

I find it very telling that you blame the person who couldn’t stomach to vote for genocide, instead of blaming your polticians for being pro-genocide.

It’s always amazing to me how people will blame those that couldn’t stomach voting for a pro-genocide candidate, instead of blaming the candidate for being pro-genocide.

Maybe people should be mad at the politicans who gave up fighting for their voters, and handed the victory to Trump

Yes. I find a lot of people actually learn what they are talking about before talking about it. I also find that a lot of people read what I write, and address those points, rather than points that I never made.

And I have a hard time addressing people who refuse to research, and keep arguing against things that I never said.

Citation requested

Do some searching here, on reddit, etc. You’ll find it.

Good for the massive waves of people who want to give Mozilla money. They already can https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/?form=donate-header

That’s not what I said. I said that they wanted to donate to Firefox, not Mozilla. I find it very telling that Mozilla doesn’t let them do that, but insteads forces people to donate to the org, that overpays it’s executives.

Oh yeah. I LOVE when my boss tells me that I am going to get paid less but I will be more effective because of it. Oh, wait, no I don’t.

Who said that the people who are actually working on Firefox would get paid less? I certainly didn’t. I clearly said that the useless executives would get paid less

Honestly? it sounds like you don’t care about reality and just care about things being ideologically pure for you with the expectation that it will all work out. So… maybe try to educate yourself on any of all this before trying to have a discussion about it?

I have. But you clearly didn’t read what I posted. If you aren’t going to address the things that I wrote, why comment?

The userbase does want to give them money though. I constantly hear people say that they want to donate to Firefox, but Mozilla doesn’t let them do that.

Also, I never said that Patreon would give them more money. It would be less money, but it would be more effective, as they could finally ditch the worthless exectutives that keep draining Mozilla’s resources.

I feel like I’m mis-understanding your argument. Are you saying that Mozilla can’t do things that other groups are already successfully doing, because “The popular people make too much money” doing it, and “They are already getting that via the Mozilla Foundation”?

That doesn’t make sense to me.