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  • Awesome comment. Thank you! This is where something starts to become visible: the weird indirect physical and psychological violence of liberal ideology.

    It’s base claim is: If everyone, as a single enlighted decent individual agent, would just play by the rules (fair markets), everything would be at it’s best. All of them shall thrive.

    Now all those good christians go through life working their ass of, actually trying to be “a good person”, but after decades they have to painfully find out: It doesn’t work out. Most of them get more stressed, poorer, there’s ecological destruction, war and so on. Almost no one get’s to thrive.

    As you pointed out, finding out about capitalism and (neccessarilly collectively) paving a way to more rational production and fairer distribution, is difficult. You could almost say it’s practically and ideologically out of reach. You know, because your freedoms depend on liberal individualism.

    They end up with two options: 1. Look for an outside menace to the otherwise funtional market game (immigrants, jews, or heck why not trans people) 2. Get more of the same: more privatizarion, less social welfare etc.

    They cling ever harder to a political decision, the more it harms them. This is brutal and sad af imo.

    Real agency is possible, just not the individualist kind liberalism is successfully promising them in their despair of heteronomy.








  • “Strawman” - and then you just go with “vegans”… so all? Most? Some? Or maybe just the tiniest percentage? I think you understand for wich ones my argument applies and how “strawman” doesn’t, cause numbers. You know, if you pay attention…

    Ok lets cut the rhetorics, I was trying to be sincere. I think you might wanna pay some more of that attention (omg sry I stop now) to “dialectic”. This does explicitly not mean you can turn the thing around and solely look at the other side.

    So of course no change ever happens if all those one persons don’t do anything. But they will only change history if they change the underlying structures. To do so, they have to overcome their individualistic constriction and reach collective agency.

    You gotta organize. The market won’t do, since it is THE form of organization that makes everyone a single player. Both, in their acting and in their consciousness.


  • This statement (about everyone single personal effort) only becomes meaningful when you take into consideration why people don’t. If you do, you will encounter the dialectics of structure and “personal choice” and how complicated history is and how it is not at all about “everybody make a small change in their life”.

    The liberal feverdream of individual solutions for structural problems is bound to end up in “I buy good groceries”.

    And, eventhough veganism is a good thing to do, this is why I’m personally so annoyed by vegan communities.

    I dont know if reducing your personal sin count or whatever is a substitute for radical critique and political action, or an add-on, so I didn’t downvote. But maybe it explains some of it.







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    Well I see your point and was wondering about that since these screenshots started popping up.

    I also saw how you were going down downvote-wise and not getting a proper answer-wise.

    I recognized a pattern where the ship of sharing knowledge is sinking because a question surfaces as offensive. It happens sometimes on feddit.

    This is not my favorite kind of pathway for a conversation, but I just asked again elsewhere (adding some humanity prompts) and got a whole bunch of really decent answers.

    Just in case you didn’t see it because you were repelled by downvotes.

    …dunno, we all forget sometimes this thing is kind of a ship we’re on