Cheers for posting all this.

I was wondering that myself.

Maybe it’s not digital tech so people don’t care? Maybe they think it’s an add.

I was just surprised/ happy it is a commercial reality.

This could be used in bulk in the manufacture of foods.

Great futuristic way to get egg whites without the killing and ecological harm.

Yes. So many of these threads read like Elon is stupid for trying to put humanoid robots in a factory from 1945 when he could just use a robotic arm or specialised machinery.

No, robotic arms and specialised machinery have replaced most labour, at least when compared to total output, already. If they didn’t do that they would have been shutdown a long time ago for lack of productivity and high costs. It’s not 1945 anymore, factories have spent 80 years trying to replace workers. Humanoid robots and AI might (eventually) be the final piece, not the major piece.

It seems to me we agree on everything except scale.

You don’t see humanoid robots being good enough and cheap enough to replace humans in any job. I do. I think it will start slow and progress overtime. Same how robotic arms started slow and then reaching more factories and more types of work.

The price people are saying these robots will cost is way less that what it costs to keep humans around.

The reason a humanoid robot will be used over a robotic arm is the same reason humans are used over a robotic arm that’s flexibility. The reason a humanoid robot will be used over a human is cost.

All the work done by humans right now.

Tends to be either stuff that is difficult to automate or work that is so short as to not be cost effective to buy a robot that only does that one job.

Humans aren’t good at doing most thing. But they are very very good at doing a lot of things.

Flexibility is the main thing that employs people in factories right now.

The majority of work that can be done by simple arm robots has been replaced with simple arm robots.

The humanoid robots are not going to fulfill that niche.

Wind power is paid for if it is used or not.

It could be a lot cheaper up in Scotland where it is often wasted. If it’s cheaper up there more industry will move up there and use more of that cheap electricity and it will mean less is wasted.

But this would benefit Scotland at the expense of England so it’s not going to happen. As such electrical prices are same around country which keeps jobs down south and electricity expensive.

You know why right?

The grid is constraint and because of this it makes prices really high where the congestion is. Now the logical thing is to allow a different price where there is free energy like in Scotland verse where it is constraint.

But! The issue is where it is constraint and that’s south east England. And as everyone in the country knows no one gets anything in the UK unless south east England has more of it for less.

So higher prices in SE England is not going to happen. If it was the other way around I’m certain the government would say fuck the Scots they should have more wind power if they wanted cheap electricity.

Grid should be public and production should be privatised.