Seizing of ships? My sibling in Christ Nicolás Maduro was kidnapped by the USA

Does this make Estonia an imperialist country in your opinion?

Obama literally got the Nobel peace price while bombing civilians with drones in the middle east, do you really think that what’s happening in Nigeria is significantly worse?

You may be surprised that the “tankies” over at lemmygrad and hexbear have been having a field day mocking the “socialist AI” for the past days, here’s an example post. The majority of “tankies” in the so-called “tankie triad” are Marxist-Leninists and not Trotskyists, the latter being the ideology best characterizing WSWS (org behind the “socialist AI”) to the best of my knowledge. So yeah, you’re late to the party of criticising this organization, the “tankies” that you so hate have got you covered on that front.

However, “tankies” aren’t afraid of sources by their country of origin or ideology because we can do good analysis of the source and of the material in question, and if they bring something important to the table we can pick it up and agree with them.

The Wikipedia list of logical fallacies was a meme exaggeration. It’s a trope that edgy redditors will answer to serious comments by discarding their content according to one of the fallacies in the Wikipedia list. But sure, I’ll answer to you accordingly: fallacy fallacy. Even if my comment were a fallacy (which I disagree), that’s irrelevant because a logical fallacy can still be true. How about you answer to the content of the comment then, and not to a logical structure.

Regarding the other stuff about western sources and tankies, my claim was this:

If Reuters reports on domestic events in western nations with evidence, that’s generally trustworthy. When it comes to geopolitical topics, the thing changes from “journalistic reporting of easily provable stuff” to “geopolitically charged claims without serious journalistic work”, and that’s when tankies like me are careful of western sources

And you bring me one link about Venezuela and one link about DPRK, the former including links to western “Freedom Burger Eagle association” type organizations, not even to journalistic or UN claims. This seems to align very well with what I claimed.

Hey, aren’t you the same person complaining about red herring on another comment thread? Instead of following your logic of answering with the Wikipedia list of logical fallacies, I’ll answer to your point:

Tankies like me don’t generally refuse all information coming from UN or Reuters on the basis of being bourgeois. If Reuters reports on domestic events in western nations with evidence, that’s generally trustworthy. When it comes to geopolitical topics, the thing changes from “journalistic reporting of easily provable stuff” to “geopolitically charged claims without serious journalistic work”, and that’s when tankies like me are careful of western sources.

If you believe otherwise, you can bring me some examples instead of generally referring to something tankies do that I don’t think we do

I do personally dislike the wsws but there is nothing arguable about the headline here, it is publicly accessible information. I will question western sources when they make unsupported claims about geopoltical adversaries, as much as I’ll question state propaganda from another country when doing the same (such as Russia claiming genocide of Russians in Eastern Ukraine for example).

So you dismiss the content just because you dislike the source?

Witnessing a mass murder would be akin to watching not a suicide net but an actual suicide, great false equivalency in your whataboutism.

What about unpaid holiday in the USA? What about homelessness rates? What about rates of poverty in urban areas and rates of employed poverty? What about diplomatic, economic and military support for genocide in Palestine? What about one in five black males going through the prison system at least once throughout their lives? What about mass incarceration rates? What about drug abuse and drug mortality? What about car-only infrastructure? What about expansive suburban without access to public transit or any walkability? What about food deserts? What about the invasion of Iraq? What about the most expensive healthcare in the planet with the least function of the developed world? What about the disintegration of public education? What about prohibitive tuition costs in universities? What about student debt? What about debt of US citizens in general? What about credit score rates? What about the price of housing being unaffordable? What about the oil dependency and the shutting down of renewable and nuclear projects? What about the “back to coal”? What about the collapse of unionization rates? What about rates of obesity? What about functional illiteracy rates? What about life expectancy being lower than in Cuba? What about massive wealth inequality? What about the most overfunded and bloated military industrial complex? What about the support for dictators and fascists all over the world? What about the CIA operations supporting coups and destroying socialist movements? What about the bombing of Libya submerging it into a civil war? What about the support for ISIS in Syria? What about mass surveillance of US citizens and of the rest of the world? What about ownership of mass media and social media by capitalist conglomerates? What about the militarized police disappearing people in the streets? What about the functionally equivalent two parties in your “democracy”? What about the pedophilic gerontocracy in power? What about the rollback of rights of women? What about the rollback of rights of trans people? What about the consistently racist policies? What about the lack of worker rights? What about the finacialized justice system? What about the total lack of public childcare infrastructure? What about the disastrous rates of second language knowledge and usage among USians? What about the exploitation of the peoples and their resources in the global south? What about the propagation of false neoliberal recipes for disaster through the IMF and its debt traps? What about the offshoring of polluting industries? What about the support for fascists like Bolsonaro and Milei?

Whataboutism much? “Yeah, Chinese people may be overwhelmingly satisfied with their government, BUT WHAT ABOUT…”

But sure, let’s do whataboutism. I’ve visited China and the US (I’m Spanish). In China I’ve seen a total of 0 suicide nets. In the US I’ve seen plenty of public spaces forbidding people from having backpacks due to fear of mass murder with rifles. One of them was a university. Tell me again how much healthier the country that doesn’t allow BACKPACKS IN UNIVERSITIES is.

Surely you know better than the University of California, Pew Research and the Ash Institute, buddy

Source so that you can get educated if you want

Taking 800 million people out of poverty and becoming the manufacturing hub of the world is not good enough of a government for you? It is for the majority of Chinese people though, highest government satisfaction rate in the world!

Edit: so many comments responding with striking cognitive dissonance against factual, empirical data carried out in study after study by Pew Research, the University of California and the Ash Institute. Westerners are so propagandized about China that they can’t even listen to western factual information about China and government satisfaction. Again: if you think you are less biased against communism than the western institutions listed above, think again.