

What’s stopping you?
Living fossil.
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What’s stopping you?


Inertia is a hell of a thing. Also TikTok has one of the most efficient algorithms of any social media, and I doubt it would be easily replicated. Especially if you’re doing it in the classic Fediverse spirit of trying to be non-invasive, non-addictive, caring for the users’ privacy etc.


Yeah, and that’s really the crux of it. To 90% of people, the content is all that matters. That’s why comments like: “hey, you like TikTok? Why don’t you try Loops instead?” or “Check out Pixelfed, it’s a bit like Instagram!” are unlikely to work. For most people, it’s just a strictly worse version. The same thing but without the content. Why would they downgrade for no reason?
You have to care about something external to the core experience of consuming content to actually be here. That’s why our population at the moment is, well, just us here *gestures around.* You have to care about FOSS, or decentralisation, or anti-corporatism, or really value the more human interactions you get in a smaller setting with fewer bots, or actually enjoy putting in more work and get less served to you by an algorithm.
Most of the people with those values I believe will eventually trickle over here naturally. The rest though, this is a really hard sell for.


If anyone knew, you wouldn’t have to ask. Everyone’d already been here.


It’s an inherent problem with having both users and communities on the same instances, and just how humans tend to operate in general in that we automatically gravitate to others and clump together.
I think it was @rglullis@communick.news who was saying that in an ideal world there would be two types of instances, one for users and one that only served as hosting space for communities. That way you could block or defederate user groups without losing access to entire communities.
Of course, we’re way past the point where reorganization into a structure like that is feasible. But it’s interesting to think about.


That sounds like a great idea, that’s some of the most important information.


You can copy paste the URL into you instance’s search box.
But I do think we also need this feature https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/2318
Since I use my phone for Lemmy 100% of the time I sometimes forget what a massive issue this is. A feature like that strikes me as critical.


It’s definitely funny in an ironic kind of way that Piefed began as at least partly a reaction towards the politics of the Lemmy devs, but ended up themselves doing the very thing they feared (ie: letting politics affect the code). Meanwhile Lemmy still has never suffered from this, as far as I know.


What the fuck is going on with Piefed lately.


I like this a lot.


I have no idea why it’s been prioritised for the iOS app store, but either it’s a case of its creator being an iPhone user, or American I guess (I believe iPhone still has a majority market share in the US).


It’s available, but I don’t know about ready. You can register freely, you can download a phone app (through apk) and you can scroll. When I tried it the other week it still failed to deliver any worthwhile content in a quick enough time. I don’t think the recommendation algorithm is good enough (although there also just isn’t a ton of stuff on there in general).
It does also lack a lot of features, I think the biggest one is a built-in editor. Right now every video must be single take and that’s going to be in the way of mass adoption.


That’s super cool. Hopefully this can be a nice boost.


Thunder was still not quite what I was looking for last time I tried it. I am very happy with Summit now, personally.


This is longer than he’s ever been MIA for before, this time I think it’s about 2 years since the last update, and there are several literally critical bugs. But this is the downside with absentee developers like that, you never know for sure whether it’s abandonware or not. But he seems to be actively working on other stuff still so I just don’t think Lemmy took off enough in popularity for him to feel like it’s worth his time monetarily. Makes sense if this was always more of a business than a passion project, which is the way it appears to be to me.


I love Sync but be aware that it is no longer being actively developed. It has some bugs that will never be fixed, and might break entirely in the future.
They saw the porn was gone and decided “nah, fuck it”.


They are. NSFW filters often also filter out stuff like the ICE shootings, for example.


Have tried most of them and none feel as good as Summit.
Ah I see. I don’t think so, unfortunately. Something like that would definitely be useful, I guess as a browser extension? I wonder if something like that exists…