• darthelmet@lemmy.world
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    3 years ago

    This is why there’s that trope where the bad guy gets killed in the process of, or just after, getting redeemed. So the story can have its cake and not have to deal with any of the icky justice afterwards. How jarring would it be to have the bad guy turn around, save the day, and then the heroes still kill them or drag them off to a trial for their crimes? So justice has to be meted out by fate rather than having to complicate our heroes.

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    3 years ago

    hilarious how this guy became a meme. I hope he earns at least $1 every time someone posts a picture of his trying-so-hard-to-stay-awake face on the internet.

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    3 years ago

    I mean if the villain’s redemption is well written then typically the guilt from their past actions is the punishment for said actions, and their current actions are largely focused on atonement and reparation. That sort of thing often makes them even more relatable because while not everyone has killed another person, everyone in the world has hurt someone else at some point, maybe unintentionally, maybe unknowingly, maybe due to extenuating circumstances or their own trauma, or maybe because they were just a worse person at the time. Does that mean they are never allowed to be a better person and must eternally suffer for all the wrongs they’ve committed? Is it not better to encourage their goodness in the present than to forcibly drag them back to when they were bad over and over again for the sake of vindication? Does society really benefit from that sort of thing? And what if they end up saving more lives than they’ve taken? Something to think about.

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    3 years ago

    My biggest problem with Fairy Tail.

    Never got over Gajeel beating Levy within an inch of her life, then literally crucifying her for the rest of the guild to find.

    And then that’s who people start shipping her with?! AND THEN IT BECOMES FUCKING CANON!?

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      3 years ago

      anime fans have a nasty tendency to ship the most absolutely toxic, nonsensical, garbage pairs. That includes the creators.

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    This is why I like the Halo expanded lore. There’s a lot of guilt and grudges when it comes to Thel Vadam in Halo. Dude led fleets that killed millions of humans. He just accepts that he’ll never make up for it, no matter how much good he does for humanity after the war.

    It also goes into how, even though he was manipulated by the Covenant, he’ll never stop feeling guilty. But he’s the only Sangheili leader that is 100% devoted to peace with the humans, so most humans aren’t willing to take a shot at revenge.