Iran’s speaker of parliament Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf said Americans have said “NO TO WAR,” as projections from U.S. midterm elections showed that Democrats have flipped both houses of Congress.
Will Iranian’s be able to say ‘NO TO A RELIGIOUS AUTHOTARIAN REGIME’?
Will americans do anything about dismantling their rape colony?
Wym? I think they’ve already said no to the USA quite a few times already.
Don’t confuse my comment for support for the US’s actions against Iran. I’m simply highlighting that Iran is talking about a success of the US people being able to make democratic changes to their government (despite all its faults), whilst their own people can’t afford the same luxury.
So if you understand that there was no real pretext for an invasion, why are you comparing these two topics?
Can’t I call out the hypocrisy? It’s irrelevant what the pretext was, the Iranian regime is still brutal and doesn’t allow it’s people to vote on how it’s government is run.
Can’t I call out the hypocrisy?
Sure, but this is politics. All the bad things and the good things are true at the same time. If you try to make a scorecard of the lies and the truths, it will never end.
Are the Americans meddlesome? Yes. Is it terrible that the current administration ended WHO support and overseas medical assistance programs? Also yes.
We cannot have pure discourse, it doesn’t exist.
Politically, we should end all foreign aid and wars. Come back, look ourselves in the mirror, and realize we have to pay down 40 trillion in debt. Pivot to that issue
It’s going to be very frustrating the next two years as people trot out the memes about incrementalism and insist to me that the Dems are powerless to do anything they promised, especially since these same people watched Republicans make change overnight repeatedly for the last two years.
To be fair, Trump made overnight changes; this has just been one of the least active Congresses in the history of the county which includes ignoring violations. Basically being effective by being ineffective.
But I’m with you on this one… between Senate filibuster and presidential veto, they go back to the whine approach we’ve had in the past. I hope not, but I’m not quite as enthusiastic as others. (But I am excited to see state legislation change for once, that might have long term ramifications!)
They did NOT say no to war, they said no to $5/gallon gas.
Still blows my mind that Americans are raging over fuel prices that would essentially be seen as heavy discount in Europe. How the hell is your gas so cheap that below average price seems extreme to you?
It’s only “cheaper” because we pay for roads through other taxes as well. The big difference is taxes, which we pay very little of at the pump
We have a strategic oil reserve and our supplier isn’t at war with the nation that the pipeline it comes through sits in. In fact we are well aware that the amount of oil we get from the middle east is paltry at best, and that the increase of our prices are purely the oil companies assfucking us over the fact they can’t ship it everywhere else to make profits. (that third mega yacht won’t buy itself after all!)
The SPR is irrelevant. Oil is a global commodity with minimal difference in price across the globe
the increase of our prices are purely the oil companies assfucking us
That’s how basic economics works. Oil is a global market far more complicated than you understand
The US is heavily reliant on oil imports. We have to pay the market rate to keep our refineries running. US oil is largely exported
That seeming contradiction is one tiny piece of the giant puzzle that is the modern oil and gas sector. People spend their entire lives studying a single segment of it
The American oil and gas industry is heavily subsidize by the government. So we get an artificially lower price of gas and oil then most places in the world. However our pool companies will still export and use the market price to increase gas prices. The entire system is rigged to keep us addicted to oil. https://www.americanprogress.org/article/5-hidden-ways-the-government-rigs-the-market-in-favor-of-fossil-fuels/
Anyone that says we can’t switch to other modes of energy, we absolutely could. It just requires us to put the same amount of subsidies we already give oil and gas to other industries instead, but that would hurt shareholders of oil companies! We care very much about those shareholders.
More accurate.
Sadly, the only war we have any business being in would solve both these problems, BuT RuZzIa HaZ nOoKz!!1 🤪
I sort of wish I didn’t believe this but I’ve seen how they talk about the war.
Meanwhile Dem leadership has a much more sensible position on the war: that Trump is doing it wrong.
Who has that position? Can you cite them establishing that position? Even a single member of dem leadership?
It’s the subtext of every public comment made by Schumer criticising the war: Didn’t go through congress, erratic, no exit strategy.
Never a word against the myth-making to justify the war, or that the US shouldn’t be in an offensive war against a country that didn’t attack it.
No, it’s a costly embarrassment, a strategic blunder, an action taken without filling out the prerequisite forms in triplicate.
Going to war (successfully) with Iran has been an unrealised dream of the uniparty for decades.
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Didn’t Americans really say no expensive gas?
does war ever not cause expensive gas? technically you die of lack of oxygen to the brain, not bullet or gun or cop.
No, you definitely die directly because of the bullet, which came directly from the gun, which was directly fired by the cop. Things don’t just happen, there’s nothing “technical” about this view, just ignoring causality.
In the same way, this war is raising gas prices not just because it’s a war but because it’s directly affecting global oil trade. That and all the other consequences are directly caused by trump and bibi deciding it was time to bomb Iran.
if bullet didn’t cause leaks that make brain not get oxygen you wouldn’t die from most getting shot. not quickly anyway. so cops wouldn’t use them.
And no to ICE thugs, concentration camps, ethnic cleansing and rampant corruption. But yeah, gas too.
I didn’t see the outrage from the MAGAts on those topics at all.
In this case that’s basically the same thing.
Yes but no. Motives matter.
Not in politics they don’t. No one is ever altruistic
America joined WW2 because they feared Germany’s military power if they take over Europe. In the process they stopped the genocide of millions
That is a good thing, regardless of motive
I’d say they do matter in any context. But it depends whose point of view we take.
It matters if something happens with your conscious decision or just as a side effect. It’s a matter of moral agency.
It’s like that Michael Scott meme where his manager is shaking his hand.
