Something good coming out of AI, it seems.
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oh wow fam, ai is protecting us from… ai
People here can’t seam to get past there built in kneejerk reaction to anything AI related.
get past there built in kneejerk reaction to anything AI related
Maybe because it’s not kneejerk. We know how AI works, what it takes to have it running, how it was built, who controls it. For many people, the ends do not justify the means (and that’s if we assume fixing CVEs on Linux is somehow worth the very problematic ends AI is leading us towards anyway).
the very problematic ends AI is leading us towards anyway.
Please Mr. Time Traveller. Tell us about the future.
A plane’s wings are burning and it’s heading towards a mountain, opposite way to the nearest airport. Need a time machine to figure out what’s about to happen?
I asked you to provide specifics about the future that AI is leading us towards, not a summary of the early 21st century. However, I understand how the question could have been confusing to one such as yourself who swims in the steam of prescience.
Or, if we must stick to metaphor, where is AI in this airplane?
Some people seem to be unable to fathom the fact that AI can be useful in some circumstances, always assuming the worst despite no evidence to suggest it.
AI can be useful in some circumstances
And the point is that this statement can be true AND we can still think AI should cease to be used. The “useful in some circumstances” benefit does not justify the ethical and environmental cost.
What would your preferred outcome in this situation be then? The bad guys are going to use AI to find exploits. What should the good guys do?
What should the good guys do?
Legislate AI away, except for the already existing open models that run on consumer-grade GPUs and are therefore orders of magnitude weaker and can’t be used to break down any systems.
Or penalize heavily any company developing a model that is subsequently used to invade a system, stopping this madness of separating the models from the operators of said models.
Legislate AI away
Yes, because that has worked so well in the past for alcohol, cannabis, homosexuality, or nuclear proliferation.
existing open models that run on consumer-grade GPUs and are therefore orders of magnitude weaker and can’t be used to break down any systems.
This class of models is already perfectly capable of finding and exploiting vulnerabilities in software, and is within spitting distance of the frontier.
Or penalize heavily any company developing a model that is subsequently used to invade a system.
Yeah, that case will be on the docket right behind U.S.A. vs Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and Raytheon surely.
Do you seriously believe any of these are within the realm of possibility, or even believability?
Thank you for doing this for me.
Yes, because that has worked so well in the past for alcohol, cannabis, homosexuality, or nuclear proliferation.
A list of examples where prohibition didn’t work is quite far from an argument that it never works, Plato. Leaded gasoline, CFCs, asbestos, DDT, should I go on?
This class of models is already perfectly capable of finding and exploiting vulnerabilities in software, and is within spitting distance of the frontier.
If you think frontier models are close to Qwen running on your 5090, you’re completely devoid of any knowledge on the subject and therefore this discussion becomes meaningless.
