What he’s saying: Paul has an “unhinged obsession with me,” and his motive for the hearing is to “get me to say something — anything — that could vindicate his repeated public pledges that I end up, in his words, quote, behind bars unquote,” Fauci said.
“Although it pains me to do so … under the advice of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions,” Fauci said.
Let’s talk more about the child raping rather than this sideshow bullshit.
It’s frustrating, but an entirely correct response from Fauci, because this isn’t and was never about facts or data or science at all. The hearing is political kabuki of the absolute dumbest variety.
This is Hillary Bengaze redeux.
If they had something he’d be charged. This is a fishing expedition, hoping an 85 year old might slip up and say something that they can frame as incriminating.
Biden gave Fauci a full preemptive pardon. Because everybody knew that Republicans would go after Fauci on made up bullshit.
Fauci dedicated his life to saving other peoples’ lives. Republicans are evil.
Wow, he looks pretty good for 85 and all the shit he’s been through. Compare that face to all the other >=75 year-olds in DC politics.
They need a new episode for the maga crowd 🙄
Well, if they get bored they could remember about that thing we tere talking about before that was never really concluded… it sounds so long ago now. Einstein files? Ephaim files?
Why not? Anytime the republicans get questioned they same the same thing, or, “I cant remember.”
They never answer the question.
them throwing out his attorney for saying he has rights is just wow.
They what?!
Why am I even shocked anymore.
Welcome to Temu fascism everyone…
yeah it was wild. rand paul was telling him he does not have the right not to answer and faucis attorney said he did and rand goes nuts saying he had no right to speak only fauci should speak and calling the guards to throw him out and he was. wtf! which goes to show that libertarians have full on linked themselves to maga just like republicans.
Rand Paul is definitely not a libertarian.
Senate panel’s BULLSHIT witch hunt questions.
I have said it before and I will say it again. The reublican party as a whole has to go. I get the problems with the democrats but we need to make a new floor for crappiness which the dems are perfect for. They can split or a third party comes up or both but its not going to happen until the republicans cannot win anywhere close to a majority.
I imagine the cause for the idiocy is because the NIH began funding gain of function research on bat corona viruses (Covid) at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2014… when Obama was President. And they did that while placing a halt on most US government lab research in the same direction because there had been biohazard incidents and the safety was in question.
It’s a stupid game, because it’s a type of research that had been going on with various diseases in various labs for many years before this, but Trump has some weird insanity relating to Obama and trying to force Fauci to say something that they could use to reveal US involvement in the origin of Covid and pin it on Obama and Democrats… eh. Not super surprised.
a bigger deal was trump killed funding for people who specifically looked for viruses jumping into farm animals in china. he of course thought why are we paying to do this when china should. Similar to how they stopped paying to innoculation cattle south of us so screw worm would not creep up here. The last person in that program left in something like october of 2019. I mean he could not have screwed up worse if he was trying to.
I’m not… fuck, is reading comprehension that bad even on Lemmy? I’ve been a leftist and science nerd my entire life. I’m not saying Obama bad. I’m certainly not saying Trump good.
I’m giving my best guess at the reasons behind the current administration trying to grill Fauci at this given point in time. The NIH funding for WIV to research GoF in bat corona viruses started in a year Obama happened to be President. Trump has some irrational (likely partly racist) hatred of Obama. The Midterms are coming up, and looking very bad for Republicans.
It seems reasonable that Trump or shitsack Miller or someone else in his Inner Circle of Evil Twats is trying to use this as another potential way to stir up shit or at least try to throw more shit at Democrats, before the election. That isn’t saying I think Democrats deserve any of that shit. But even Maga fuckwits are starting to lose confidence and trust in Trump, and they’re very stupid, so if they could get Fauci to say slip up in front of cameras and the Senate in a way that let them start screaming “OBAMA MADE COVID!” the majority of the morons who might have been slipping off the idiot train back into reality and rational thought would likely believe it enough to vote the hard R again.
Everyone’s just glossing over the personal diary bit. How the hell does a Congress member get someones personal diary?
Part or all of it was written using ‘federal property’ aka probably his laptop.
Is that like for programmers when the corp tells them that everything they code on company time belongs to the corp?
No, it’s like when the corporation tells them that their company laptop belongs to the company and is only to be used for company business. Which is why I carry two phones and two laptops on business trips.
Always listen to the advice of your lawyer.
Meh.
I mostly deal with corporate lawyers, and their advice is almost always:
- Don’t do it
- Spend more money on lawyers
This is in their best interests, not necessarily their client’s best interests.
I don’t know how this applies to criminal law, obviously.
I definitely wouldn’t go erasing my phone without knowing the potential consequences.
This is like the McCarthy hearings, that also targeted civil servants. Except this time it is everybody that doesn’t kiss the ring.
Absolutely crazy, absolutely without reason, USA is a shitty country, and nobody is doing anything!
The logical result of electing an obvious malignant narcissist, and the American people went ahead and did it anyway.
USA as a country and society has gone insane.I gotta wonder if there were as sizable a group of Americans that were skeptical of McCarthyism as there is, currently, of Trump’s witch hunt.
Arthur Millers estate should release a special edition of The Crucible, dedicated to Trump.
The crazy thing is that USA does the same thing twice, and nobody is doing anything. 🤥 😡
USA is a joke of a country, and Americans are a joke of a people. The are just lollygagging through life while Nazism is taking over.Nobody is doing anything according to your world view presented by the media you consume. There have been massive protests, but the surveillance state backed by the biggest military in the world doesn’t give a fuck what we want, and has shown it takes no issue with killing protestors. The billionaire parasites own the media and the vast majority of the means of communication, making it difficult to network and coordinate. Look at the guy facing terrorism charges for usung his duress pin code. He protested against Cop City, was placed on a watch list, and slapped with bullshit charges as soon as possible.
There have been massive protests
There have been significant protests, but they have not been exactly massive, and the demands have been pretty lame.
Several European countries have had bigger protests recently over less than what the Trump regime represents.I acknowledge that there are good Americans too, but they are not the ones in control, and they are the minority.
USA as a country remains extremely fucked, the fact that ICE has been allowed to continue their abuse and killings for so long is insane, and only possible because the American police has formed precedence and done the same almost since the independence. USA is so used to violence and abuse of minorities, they don’t even notice, and they think it’s normal, because in USA it actually is normal. A tradition that is probably stillbaccepted because of long periods of slavery, and later oppressing people of color. To now oppressing those and other minorities too.
Democracy is not the mentality of the American people, oppression is.There have been significant protests, but they have not been exactly massive
4/5 of the largest protests in US history have happened since 2025 directly as a response to trumps shit.
Several European countries have had bigger protests recently
Which ones? How big?
USA is so used to violence and abuse of minorities, they don’t even notice, and they think it’s normal
Spoken like someone who’s never actually dealt with anything other than our news filtered through your news.
I acknowledge that there are good Americans too, but they are not the ones in control, and they are the minority.
Considering you’re in Europe, the world experts in imperialism, brutal ethnic suppression, you still wear fucking blackface, you don’t even see the issues with your treatment of migrants as a problem, and a fair number of the protests I found while trying to figure out which one you meant were “anti migrant”, I feel like that’s a bit of a rich sentiment.
You do know that one of the most offensive policies trump has been pursuing is to rollback our citizenship rules to those that are the norm in Europe?
edit Jesus, is reading comprehension this bad on Lemmy, or is this post just full of people who love Trump and his bullshit? I’m not saying Fauci is bad. I’m not saying Obama is bad. I will add an ELI5 bullet point tldr for yall.
tl;dr:
- Trump&co worried bout midterms in case they can’t cancel or rig them enough.
- NIH funding for corona virus studies in Wuhan started when Obama happened to be President.
- Dumb Trumpians starting to stop believing all his shit.
- Trump hate Obama. Trump think if he can get Fauci slip up and say something he can twist into “OBAMA MADE COVID” his dumdums will believes it and votes for him again.
- The US Govt is not super trustworthy. Sometimes they do or pay for bad things. Sometimes they lies.
Well, of course Fauci took the Fifth. The NIH, headed by Fauci, had authorized and directly funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study Gain of Function research to increase the transmissibility of bat corona viruses in humans. Research into making viruses just like the Corona virus more transmissible in humans, at that lab right near where Corona first appeared. I posses enough suspension of disbelief to think elves and magic are real, but not enough to believe that’s a coincidence.
The US has done it’s damndest to act like it had no involvement in Corona. To either pin it on China since that’s where it appeared or insist it’s origins can’t be known. I’m sure 40 years from now there will be a batch of documents declassified that admit the US was directly responsible for the fuck up that led to the deaths of a shitload of people… because that’s what pretty much every batch of files the US declassifies after virtually everyone involved has shuffled off this mortal coil always shows.
That’s not saying Fauci should be in jail. That’s not saying I’m a fan of the idiot Republican response and witch hunt. It’s stupid and likely a Trumpian ploy to try to blame Obama and Democrats for Covid as the NIH began funding WIV in 2014.
Fauci was simply doing his job. The US government was funding a very bad line of research, that went very wrong, then lied about it and covered it up, and moved that research to different facilities as the US government tends to do. It’s something the US government and people in it should answer for, and things that should come out into the light. But this isn’t any attempt to honestly do that. This is Trump’s evil puppeteers trying to find a way to pin something huge and awful on Democrats before the midterms in case his other plans to rig or cancel the elections don’t pan out.
Uh… Waitress? Yeah… Um… Can I have some of whatever the hell you gave this guy?
Lost at the confusion here. The NIH funding and it’s dates, the research that was being done, the location of the lab doing that exact research being exactly where Covid started appearing, all of that stuff is public record. Those are just simple facts.
Are you all saying that even though the US Government was paying for research to be done into making bat corona viruses more transmissible in humans at WIV, and right then during said research a bat corona virus that is surprisingly transmissible in humans appears for the first time, right beside that very same laboratory… you all believe that’s just an amazing coincidence?
It makes more sense to you that Covid was really spread to humans because some wild bats bit some random unknown animal that ended up in the market right beside where we were paying for bat corona virus research to be done… and that passing through this unknown animal is what just happened to make it extra transmissible in humans, the same thing that was being researched on the same viruses right next door? Even though that’s never been shown or traced or ever shown up again in any other sample in any other area meat market in all the years since? Because the super trustworthy US Government that never lies or covers anything up said they had no idea what happened?
I don’t get it. I know Trump lies constantly, virtually every time he talks… but he didn’t invent having the US government lie and cover shit up and deny any responsibility or involvement. That’s been a thing for a very long time. The US government has committed loads of atrocities and then lied and covered them up.
From the Trail of Tears to Operation Wetback to overthrowing South American governments and invading the Middle East, to the CIA turning a blind eye or taking part in cocaine flooding the inner cities, to ICE gunning down innocent people in public every other day… our government has done a lot of terrible things. And they almost always lie about those things and only release the truth decades later when random batches of documents everyone stopped caring about end up declassified.
Why is the US government being connected to the Corona Virus something people see as insane? What do you think they would do if a virus they’d been funding making spread easier through humans accidentally got out in a lab leak and millions of people across the world started panicking and dying?
Own up to it? Say “Our bad on that one. We apologize to the people of the world. Stay inside, don’t go near each other, close your businesses, and hopefully only a few million older folks will die because of this.”
7 to potentially 35 millions people globally died from Covid. Do you genuinely believe any country would be willing to admit responsibility in that? To have endless demands for repayment for medical costs, financial losses to businesses, financial losses to other governments, lawsuits for compensation for untimely death of relatives, etc, etc?
The one country who (before Trump) saw itself as the global leader for justice and freedom and insisted had China or any large rival overtaken them the would would be plunged into evil communist hell, admitting to responsibility for something that would almost certainly have a large negative effect on their standing throughout the world and definitely do that unless they paid out trillions in compensation?
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Laugh Out. Loud. That’s a lot of words to explain your batshittery.
Feel free to let me know what you find crazy or even unreasonable about it.
I took the time to fully convey my thoughts on the topic. I know that words can be tuff and thinking can make your head ouchy, but I believe in you and think that if you really try you could muster up some genuine thoughts and response instead of making yourself look like an idiot.
I know your mom and I don’t say it very often, but we’re not completely disappointed in you. Make us proud, slugger.
Crazy. He showed compelling evidence to prove the USA caused Covid and killed millions. You come across as a fed who probably used multiple alts to downvote their comment and basically distract people away. I am actually curious to hear a dismantle of this, but you and the other guy who have replied to him said “Laugh out. Loud. That’s a lot of words to explain your batshittery.” Without giving a single sentence with value in it.
I’ve noticed this a lot. People like you, who drop NPC one-liners like these and then leave. What’s up with that? You rely too much on downvotes? Or are you trying to cover up the fact that maybe the USA actually created Covid, not China as many were lied to, including myself?
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Why are people still downvoting without giving at least 1 short debunk to dismantle OP’s claims?
I am now more convinced that Covid is actually USA’s fuck up and not China’s. It was the NIH’s fault, and Trump administration’s, for abruptly cutting its funding. Is this why you don’t want people to read what OP wrote? You are a Blue MAGA American Exceptionalist who supports and benefits the Jeffrey Epstein Class by convincing people to not read these things?
All is left is to prove the malice, and knowing Trump and Americans, I am sure they did it on purpose to “cull the poor, reduce overpopulation” or whatever Supremacist nonsense those Nazis believe in. Nobody is blaming Fauci here either, nor democrats, they have nothing to do with this. But then again, maybe you’re actually a MAGA for the way you replied to it.
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The “conspiracy” is that the USA stopped its funding, which led to those accidents, the same way RFK Jr. and Elon Musk have caused so many health and economic problems for cutting corners the same way, in the name of profit and anti-intellectualism. That might not be solid evidence yet, but, judging by how barbaric and stupid the American government has been, it will not be surprising anymore.
Yup. From now on, the USA caused Covid. I used to be so adamant about China being guilty, you can literally see my previous comments before this day where I said shit like: “How come nobody is paying more attention to the scientists in Wuhan? Even if it was a genuine accident, Covid killed from 7 to 15 million lives, almost three times the Holocaust, in just 2 years. Such a massive punch to Humanity deserves to be further addressed, how come nobody has heard about these people or judged them? All I want is to hear what they have to say, at least. I dont trust China, because I still remember how they silenced Dr. Li Wenliang, and if it was a biological attack to make the West look irresponsible, they succeeded. The USA lost so many people thanks to their president encouraging them to be antivax and so on. In the eyes of the world, that is incredibly damaging.”
I literally was the only dude in Lemmy who has brought up Covid like that recently, a few days before this Dr. Fauci nonsense popped up, it almost feels like they read it and are using it to distract you from the Jeffrey Epstein files and the failure of a war in Iran.
People like you have finally convinced me that it was the USA all along. You are even trying to imply I am falling for Chinese propaganda or something? I am not. I am just talking to you, after seeing new evidence about Dr. Fauci and the NIH.
Fuck the USA. Absolute terrorist country, holy fucking shit. You don’t have enough by killing over 30,000+ Mexicans every year, do you? Or the dozens of thousands of Arabs and Muslims in the Middle East? What a disgusting country, seriously.
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Your sister is an idiot. My conspiracy has more convincing dots than that: The USA, the first Trump’s administration ABRUPTLY stopped funding the research of corona viruses in Wuhan, which increased the chances of accidents, like a leak, which is what happened. Same way cutting funding to USAID led to more starvation and deaths in the poor countries it was benefiting. The same way cutting funds to Health institutions led you to this diarrhea outbreak you have right now. The same way cutting so many corners in the name of money has costed you, your companies and your government so many lives, money and reputation.
You think we should keep blaming China for Covid, or the bats, or what? Do you want people to stay angry at China? Well, thanks to Trump doing this to Fauci, this angle people barely knew came up, and it is now inevitable to think the USA caused Covid.
Your cheap attempt at trying to equate that to something as retarded as blacks being sold back to Africa, it won’t work. If you are an American Exceptionalist fool trying to do damage control, keep doing it like this. It’s perfect.
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Crazy. He showed compelling evidence to prove the USA caused Covid and killed millions. You come across as a fed who probably used multiple alts to downvote their comment and basically distract people away. I am actually curious to hear a dismantle of this, but you and the other guy who have replied to him said “Laugh out. Loud. That’s a lot of words to explain your batshittery.” Without giving a single sentence with value in it.
I’ve noticed this a lot. People like you, who drop NPC one-liners like these and then leave. What’s up with that? You rely too much on downvotes? Or are you trying to cover up the fact that maybe the USA actually created Covid, not China as many were lied to, including myself?
Would you be willing to point out what exactly I said that seems crazy to you?
