• Lantsu@sopuli.xyz
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    5 months ago

    I get scared of the botox faces, both seen from a screen and IRL. They speak, but face doesn’t move. No emotions. It’s just unsettling. And it’s hard to take the person seriously, even if they were smart.

    Often it looks like that the person would be very pretty, definitely not a mirror breaker, under it all. Even makeup often looks like the person would look better after cleaning the skin with a butter knife. I keep hearing from men that their ladies are most prettiest after waking up or just without makeup, but it’s not like they can say that without the lady thinking they’re being sarcastic.

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      5 months ago

      Because makeup is for women what bodybuilding is for men. Go tell a bodybuilder that ladies would find him prettier if he was skinnier, and see his reaction

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    If you can’t accept how beautiful you are, the way you are, doing stuff in your face won’t change it either.
    The wrost part is the internet and the Barbie effect, that brainwashes women, same as politics, because she did, you have to do it or follow the trend.
    Let me tell you what: you are amazing the way you are, you look different, you look beautiful!

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    My wife has been getting GLP-1 ads constantly. She weighs 110 lb and has struggled with anorexic tendencies since she was a teenager. Consumerism has no conscience.

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      and if you interrogate where that insecurity has its roots, you will often find the answer is a society that constantly subjects women to judgement for their appearance, be that negative or positive judgement. it is simply the experience of being judged. botox, ozempic, plastic surgery, etc all becomes gender affirming care when you are femme in a society that requires femme identifying people to perform the role of disireable sexual object

      the original post asks why. the original post also is why

      and men have their own experiences with oppositional gaze, too, so we are clear. if you’ve ever heard the phrase “low t” applied to a man in his 30s or later, you have witnessed it

  • velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I kind of hate that this implies “ugly” women will not be judged here for using the same beauty procedures as already attractive women.

    Not to mention that these beauty procedures are also sought out by men.

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    1). Society tells women they need to do things “preventively” to avoid becoming hideous goblins in a few years. That’s why you see 22 year olds getting Botox - they have been told they have to start paying NOW to avoid wrinkles

    2). Hollywood and entertainment media have normalized unrealistic standards. And you can’t become a newcomer in that space without conforming to the employable look

    3). Gossip media loves to pick apart any millimetre of fat (“Is ______ pregnant? Click to see her baby bump!”) or photo taken in bad lighting (“What is wrong with ______ ‘s health, click to see what our medical specialists have to say”). And then they love to chastise people after they give into plastic surgery (“Click to see ______’s terrible nose job, why DID she do it??”)

    Billions of dollars are made making women feel shitty. Nobody is going to let that cash go because morals.

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      5 months ago

      This meme is part of the system here as well.

      No one in this thread is complaining about ugly women getting these procedures done. They want women to be attractive, but only on their terms.

      • NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
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        Yes it’s irritating that society can celebrate the good qualities of men who aren’t physically attractive (sense of humour, intelligence, kindness, etc.) but has such trouble accepting that a woman who isn’t physically attractive can have worthwhile qualities. We can’t seem to compute when a woman decides that she has other priorities.

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      yeah i love it when male feminists talk about women like they’re victims

      you know john travolta and jim carey just completely mashed their faces in, no one going around like men have such struggles with society 😓

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        That requires the hideous mods she did to her face?

        She was super super pretty, even if not your type, she looked great. Wtf did she do.

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          She lost a shit ton of weight because of Graves’ disease. Edit: I just remembered, the steroids used to treat Graves’ disease also affect how your face looks.

          She also had some work done, but not anything more than any other actress has generally.

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    Not a woman, so I could be full of shit. It does seem to me that women face much more pressure to be conventionally attractive, especially in image-intensive jobs like acting.

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      A lot is advertising. Dude im 40F. It’s nonstop advertising to get fillers. Botox. Implants. Ozempic.

      Constantly bombarded with it.

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    Because society tells attractive women our value is primarily being attractive and losing that is scary since most people aren’t willing to give up the only thing that makes them valuable

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      When I got fat, people were assholes to me so much more often. They had no patience for me, it was crazy. I got back in shape and I’m worth courtesy and kindness again, apparently.

      I’m afraid of aging in part because I’m scared to lose that basic human decency again.

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        You do not need to look a certain way to be worthy of respect, kindness, and love. And it’s sick that so many people are such superficial assholes.

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    5 months ago

    Patriarchy

    e: Some dudes apparently can’t take accountability and they gotta downvote me to prove their point

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      I just want you to know that I’m downvoting you because the way you express your opinion is facile and simplistic, and honestly helps further the division you purport to critique. Not because I necessarily disagree with the general sentiment you believe you’re trying to convey.

      One word answers to problems are easy, but they rarely accurate enough to actually help solve the issue and generally are used to push people to extreme opinions. It’s much less effort to just spout a catchphrase to push people towards your own personal goal rather than get into an actually beneficial discussion about the ins and outs of how life actually works and how to solve real world problems.

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      Women put pressure on other women too. Girls can be bullies in school.

      I’m not downvoting you, but I am disputing the assertion that only men uphold unfair standards.

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      Wait I’m confused, if patriarchy is still a thing then why are all women in media strong independent “need no man” girl bosses now? Somebody please explain.