7zip is better anyway I don’t understand why people still use WinRar. Then again I don’t understand why people still use Windows either.
Not everything is a competition. If people want to support WinRAR after the developer maintained it for more than 30 years and helped out millions of people, that’s just fine.
If i fill bottles with tap water and try to sell it to my neighbours then anyone still “supporting” me after 30 years is an idiot.
Bottles, time to bottle, and distribution are worth compensation
This is not only a stupid comparison but you’ve missed the point entirely.
I use it on occasion, since it will deflate 100+GB zip files much faster than 7zip will. (7z is single threaded for pkzips)
It’s been more than a decade since I used it to compress anything though. LZMA2 rocks.
How does multithreading improve the performance of an unzip operation? I would think the opposite, given the context switching and (abstracted) low level drive writes.
It’s heavily CPU bound in a normal system today. Extracting (let alone compressing) a 2 GB file will take a noticeable amount of time. Reading the whole thing from an nvme will take roughly 1 second. Random access is no longer a relevant performance impact either.
It is my understanding that multithreaded extraction is hard(er) cause the used dictionary is built up incrementally. So to extract later parts you need to have extracted earlier parts.
Name recognition counts for something in the choice about helper apps.
Sometimes venerable old utilities you know from back in the day are bought out and turned into malicious shit. I don’t discount that.
However when you go looking for a little helper app for something simple, there’s an ocean of weird little offerings out there and many of them are malware.
I’d rather roll the dice that a venerable old classic hasn’t been bought out. This fact is probably quite Google-able. As for the long list of other unzip utilities… how am I supposed to know? Reviews and ratings are all fake. Many Reddit recommendations are fake.
Just saying this is one angle on why people might continue using really old tried and true programs.
I’m glad you can have a Windows-free existence.
Some things just don’t function well on Linux, but there are lots of us who are 99% Linux and don’t use Windows unless we have to.
Like what exactly ?
CAD softwares, Tally, any Autodesk tools, Adobe software not counting specifically made business softwares years ago. I couldn’t get Office running with wine ever.
Adobe is not worth using no matter what the platform.
It’s the industry standard in many areas for a reason. Photoshop has no equal, though strides are being made to change that.
Don’t care. Adobe is not worth using.
You don’t care because it’s not your job to use it professionally. You are not most people.
My 3080ti graphics card. To my knowledge, NVIDIA drivers are still a mess on Linux, and any suggestion to “just switch to AMD” is neither helpful nor appreciated; as if dropping $500+ for a new graphics card when my current one works perfectly fine is in ANY way a valid solution.
Nvidia works fine on Linux. I have an nvidia card at home, and I support a bunch of them at work. It’s easy. https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/driver-installation-guide/latest/index.html
Use the network installation to add the deb or rpm repo, then choose whether you want the open or proprietary drivers. Install the package and that’s it, your package manager will handle the dependencies.
You may need to create and enroll a dkms key if you have secureboot enabled and you haven’t done that already, but that’s the only wrinkle.
How do you stop them from randomly uninstalling themselves? A bunch of guys use Ubuntu at work and the Nvidia drivers would randomly nuke themselves occasionally when the device is turned off and they’d have to force CLI mode and do a reinstall.
I’ve never seen that happen. But the transaction that caused it should be in the package manager log.
I was going to say. That’s never happened to me in Debian, Fedora, PopOS, Linux Mint, EndeavourOS, CachyOS, Nobara or Bazzite. Is this a Ubuntu only issue?
Deleted Windows from every computer I ever owned.
Then because of a certain chain of events came the time to look into working from home. Boy oh boy, I guess it depends on the type of work you do but for what I’m qualified for they absolutely do not vibe with anything except Windows. I couldn’t even find many that would at least let you use Mac.
I begrudgingly installed Windows 11 on my machine again the other day for this very reason. I’ll still dual boot of course but man, I’m really not happy about it.
Also, Windows are complete dicks about letting you make a bootable windows USB gotta either use apps not in your distro directory or use another Windows computer to make one. Wtf is that shit about? And I had to spend like 2 hours making windows suck less.
It reminds me of how apps are starting to treat me for using Graphene OS
Are you working for yourself? Its hard to tell with how you put this.
I only work remotely, and I will never use windows to do it. The places I work for must provide the windows, and I remote into them from Linux. I vastly prefer this model. I do not want their software on my computer as I never want to be liable. The business likes it because it is far more secure to not give me a laptop and have to fuck around with a VPN.
As for the other issue: There are projects that will build the USB for you, where you provide the windows ISO you want, and then it removes all the crap and telemetry before install. There are ways to make the USB without windows, although I am not sure what you mean by “outside distro directory”.
anyone who still distributes anything compressed with winrar, please just fucking stop
use it for your personal archival purposes if you must, but please just fucking stop using it to share or distribute anything publicly. there’s zero reason to use .rar over 7z or zip or tgz or any other open standard
Does it matter when 7zip handles rar anyways?
Hey outlook, can you save all 15 attachments to this folder? The 15 attachments I can view in outlook? The 15 attachments that drag and drop out of the email into a folder as expected? The 15 attachments that I can individually save as expected to a folder?
“best I can do is a zip file for the whole batch”
Because it is a web browser underneath
I hate no Outlook. Half the time when your drag n drop it fails to save.
Edit - clearly I mean new outlook. I would love no outlook.
isn’t unrar open source?
You would think so, but it’s not.
From the Fedora wiki:
This license is BAD, and should not be used in anything in Fedora. It has use-restrictions that make it GPL-Incompatible and non-free.
I don’t care.
ITT: The most politically charged discussion of compression software I’ve ever read…
FOSS users when there’s a software that’s free but not open source
I make software that’s almost “open source” with the only limitation being that you can’t resell it. I’ve had FOSS users tell me they’d prefer it being proprietary.
Surely thats just a couple of weirdos on the extreme side. Did that happen on multiple occasions?
That’s how I know I’m home
What else did you expect from lemmy?
Israel uses 7zip to genocide LGBTQ children in Palestine running Arch btw
I own a valid WinRAR license!
Same. I’ve happily used it for over 2 decades and decided that they actually deserve some money for that. I’ve since switched to Linux, but don’t regret paying for WinRAR at all.
You can still use it. WinRAR works on Linux with WINE
Oh God why though
They also have a Linux version. But it might be cli only haven’t checked.
Yes I think rar and unrar on Linux are their CLI tools - there is no official GUI Version for Linux
I never knew unrar is also by the same developer. Pretty cool.
I knew someone must exist!
nonsense no one exists
I bought a license when I got my first adult paycheck. And a PS2. Good times
PeaZip best zip.
You wrote 7zip wrong
You accidentally typed ”7” instead on ”Nana”
Not japanese so I’ll say with SiebenZip
I didn’t, PeaZip does the same but is compatible with any OS.
Was expecting this to be an Onion article
RAR files just make me “Huh?” as they are nowhere near as good as 7zip, as universal as zip, or as nice as tarballs.
The memory of multi-part rar files being a good way to get big things voer dial-up is kinda long past, they’re a relic, in my book.
I think theyre still popular on Usenet.
IDK all the history but rar has built in ability to create recovery data / parity volumes.
Parity data is like additional data that can help reconstruct any degradation.
That said, usually a standalone parity generator is used which can work with other types of archives, but rar is what everyone uses so why change.
Compression algos are ineffective on encoded / compressed media anyway.
It used to be important on Usenet, and maybe still is, because if a drive starts to fail somewhere and contains errors those errors can be reproduced across the network. Not sure if thats still a thing or why but certainly 10 years ago it was.
The summary to this rambling comment is: some communities still like rar because its what they’ve always used and there’s no benefit to adopting 7z.
multi-part rar
Why not just use Tar with
splitandcat?Instructions unclear.
My cat is now blacka and cut in half
This is why.
A lot of truth is sais in jest, no?
Shhh you’re a free software
Unlike 7-Zip, which is actually free and also open-source as well
7-Zip is by far the best archiving software on Windows
Didn’t Microsoft get in trouble for trying to steal 7zip code without credit or something?
it’s the most convenient, but i still use my winrar for some things, mainly some of the self-extractors i build and when i want recovery bits.
Well, but I’m used to WinRAR and never had any issues. Only need it once every few months. And it’s pretty fun when the software tries to tell me that it isn’t a free software. What a silly thing to say!
Snot. You run windows 🤪
I didn’t say I use Windows. I only said that 7-Zip is the best archiving software available for it.
Also, 7-zip is available for Linux too
No, it’s proprietary
Free as in free beer, not as in freedom.
When refering to software free usually means free as in freedom
Its big companies that screw them the most. I have worked for multiple multi billion dollar corporations that will screw Team Viewer over even though its how we get customers into their down servers. And it wasn’t one data center, its every data center I have ever worked in (30 years in)
If the license is free, they will screw them.
*I know TV hasn’t been around that long, but WinRAR has been and it was another company I saw screwed.
Can anyone eli5 what winrar offers that 7zip doesn’t? I don’t hate winrar but I failed to ever need it or prefer it instead of 7zip.
Winrar is older, so it has more sentimental users
Not sure myself. Like many I used WinRAR back in the day, but it’s been at least 15 years since I last installed it.
Nanazip is a fork of 7-zip that is better on Windows 11. Doesn’t answer your question. Just making you aware
Lmao
7-zip ❌️
七zip ✅️
Absolutely nothing, plus 7zip can be faster with better compression.
Well, apparently it can do some recovery of corrupted .rar, but who uses that format anywayI’ve used .rar to backup some data to an unpowered drives, some time ago. You can reserve additional space for the checksums while compressing, so you won’t be able to recover just regular .rar files.
A lot, sadly. I don’t know why.
but who uses that format anyway
Pirates.
Makes sense. People finally have tons of disposable income to spread around. /S
Or maybe is just that everything else is so ridiculously expensive that WinRAR seems like a good deal now.
Pay for independently-developed software if you care about it continuing to exist. Steal from corporations all you want. But support independent devs (and small teams) to make sure they can keep maintaining the tools you love and rely on. It’s the only way to not get swallowed by the big dogs.
I actually paid for it back in 2017. I had been using it for free a looong time by then.
Before you go thinking “ah! That’s funny, I might chime in and give them some of my money too!” - remember that WinRAR is develop by a Russian person, can’t find their stance on the Ukrainian invasion but just something to think about.
Isn’t that like saying all Americans are evil because our president is a piece of trash?
Well, yes, thanks for the reminder!
Ey guys, before you go buying or using some USA software, make sure they don’t support or have ties with the Trump administration!
No. you made a jump from not knowing a stance of a single person to attributing evil to an entire nation.
Because need to know the stance of a single person implies attributing evil to his whole nation.
The majority of you voted for him, so it’s fair to assume a majority of you are like him, yes.
Wrong; not everyone voted, and of those who did, only a bit under half voted for him (given that there were also candidates from other parties), so he did not get a majority.
Furthermore, pretty much the moment he entered office and actually started doing things, his approval ratings plummeted, so it is not correct to assume that the majority of us are “like him”; it would be more fair to say that he tricked a large number of people into thinking that he was someone different than he was. (Mind you, I think that these people were fools who should have known better, but that is a different kind of flaw.)
100% agree. Among other things, the reaction of foreign people to American citizens in the wake of MAGA crimes is one of the goals of “manufactured consent”. We didn’t consent to this, but the powers that be have made it look like we did, not only to other Americans but to the rest of the world, isolating us and making their crimes harder to stop.
