• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Isn’t this enough proof that these chucklefucks are a drain on company resources and time and the FIRST thing to replace AI with is the bosses so workers can organize collectively while the AI helps them stay organized without the AI being in control.

    I mean, I guess that would make too much sense.

    Genuinely though, if the first thing they do with AI is outsource their own decision making, isn’t it just rock solid evidence that these people are useless at their fucking jobs to begin with? They aren’t even making the decisions anymore, the AI is. Let’s cut out the middleman, which is all a boss is now if AI is running the show. I mean, it’s what they did with all the junior developers, because they had forced the juniors into using AI and then asked themselves “why not cut out the middleman.” And they hadn’t even considered that maybe the cost of AI would outpace the cost of an employee. How the fuck are these short term thinking idiots in fucking charge anyway? A lot of bosses are just fucking charlatans.

    EDIT: Clarified first sentence.

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      They’re also probably the only employees who can be replaced by AI at a cost savings because of their hugely inflated compensation.

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      HR is there to manage benefits mostly. if the US went to medicare for all, and done away with employer sponsored health care, then a ton of HR could go away. Company culture might actually improve for once.

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        True, but I still think there would be plenty for HR to be mediating in terms of employee-to-employee relationships. However, it’s a big ask for HR to stop being a “cover your ass” department that is otherwise dedicated to making sure things like sexual harassment and hostile workplace environments don’t impact the company itself despite existing in the company all the same. Because that too is a large function of HR.

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        My partner works in HR, and from what I’ve heard about her stories from her job, this is nowhere near true. Anecdotal evidence, though.

        There is a lot of paperwork that needs to be done. If everyone could follow simple, written and documented directions that have actual pictures about how to fill the form you have to fill, you could have a lot less HR people.

        But majority of employees are not able to. They have to remind them dozens of times and chase people who didn’t do it unless personally threatened. They have to constantly answer questions that are very well documented. They have to parse out information that finances should be able to access, but they need it directly copied from the systems.

        It sounds like hell of a job, that would’ve been so much easier if people were able to follow simple instructions. And the kind of people that can’t follow a step-by-step guide that had 5 notifications about needing to be done in a Slack channel won’t do it if some AI is telling them to.

        From what I’ve heard, she is just managing disasters that could be a legal problem, always chasing people who don’t care about their annoying beraucracy that could cause a lot of trouble.

        I have a lot more respect for HR after seeing it from the other side.

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          I think you might be pleasantly surprised to find that if we all just collectively agreed not to do a lot of that paperwork, absolutely nothing bad would happen.

          I have worked for more than one company that had paperwork requirements that, once traced down, had their causes and effects commingled and were a self-perpetuating problem that was causing itself.

          Surely some paperwork and documentation is important and serves a purpose that justifies the nuisance, but a good deal of it does not, and it could simply disappear if we could dispense with our collective obsession to document irrelevant information simply because it exists.

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    The boss at a place I used to work is all in on AI bullshit. My friend works for the company remotely. He says the boss sends him massively long email, constructed by AI, full of rambling half ideas. He said he used to try to pick through it and reply appropriately and professionally. The boss would feed that into AI and copy/paste the reply back.

    Now my friend doesn’t even read the email. He throws it into AI, tells AI to craft a well thought out reply, and just sends that back at the boss. He told me if the boss won’t personally read and reply, he won’t either.

    Last time I talked with him he said the email chain has been going over 4 months, it’s still going on, but he has no idea what it’s about anymore.

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      if a colleague tells me to ask AI or gives me a response from AI again I will fucking kill somebody

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        I used to be in IT for years. I left around covid period.

        I’m SO HAPPY right now. AI drives me insane as it is. I can’t imagine working in an office having people making idiot decisions because it’s what AI recommended.

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          Rest assured, they would be making more idiotic decisions without AI assistance. AI is just reinforcing what they already think, but occasionally (maybe 12% of the time) it might nudge them in a better direction.

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    Sounds like the bosses positions should be cut then. If the default is ai then let the ai. No need for those positions and there I saved you a bunch of money.

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      Sounds like the bosses positions should be cut then.

      And in a worker cooperative that’s exactly what would happen.

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    “Reverse centaur”

    (According to Cory Doctorow, a ‘centaur’ is a human augmented by tech, and a ‘reverse centaur’ is a human who is a mere meaty appendage to a tech system)

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    AI and tech execs are like two garbage trucks which are on fire crashing in a high speed head-on collision.

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    One of the only benefits of this technology is that it will expose the incompetence of management. They can’t hide their stupid now.

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      theyd fire all their employees and blame the comapny’s implosion on sun spots before tech execs admit their own failures. But nothing of value will be lost if nearly all tech companies went bankrupt overnight.

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      Oh, they will continue to hide their stupid as un-successfully as they always have. Some get away with it for a day, some for a quarter, some for many years.

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    Honestly, if there are jobs that could best be replaced by AI, it seems that management could be high on that list. I’m sure many of us have had shitty managers and know how disastrous that can be for productivity. In some cases an algorithm would definitely have done better. It could hardly have done worse.

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      Big organizations are constantly trying to optimize the middle layers. Do you have a 5:1 reporting ratio so the manager really knows what everybody is doing, or do you have a 25:1 reporting ratio and cut out half the layers in the “telephone” miscommunication up the chain game? Seems like AI tools could bump up the optimal ration a little, if they’re used well, but middle managers aren’t the first group I’d pick to use something like an AI agent “well.”

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    This started over a year and a half ago at my company.

    Over half my department was fired, and now they are forcing us to give assessments on AI tools to replace the jobs of the rest of us.

    We’re so fucked, guys. This isn’t just where I work, it’s most places from what I’m hearing.

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    Last company I worked for was about 85% of phasing out HR for AI. It was a nightmare for new hires, checking benefits, changing benefits, and so on… Also it was zero tolerant in firing decisions and the humans they had left never strayed from AI’s recommendations.

    They started trying w/ IT but was such a disaster the put it on the back burner.

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      I’m all for pushing hr out first. I mean how hard is that job anyway? Every question has the same answer: “well you should check the internal hr site.” Thanks for nothing, i did that first because it would have saved me the trouble of dealing with your useless ass. I need to understand how I can buy a new hire in india out of the waiting period from their current employer. If you would put useful things on the site, that might help, but you don’t. And then you don’t know the answer and punt to legal AGAIN. I could save us both a lot of time and talk to them directly. If your only value is being a proxy to legal, bring on the fucking ai.

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    “I’m sure enough people don’t compliment you for your courage and insight, but this is truly an amazing question. And being able to ask, “I have no idea what I’m doing , how do I not ruin everything and embarrass myself in front of my frat bros that I hired as VPs?” is so brave and it also shows just how humble you are to be open to learning even though you are at the absolute top of your field!”

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    Am a boss. No we aren’t.

    I use it to interrogate our wikis and SharePoint, sprint data. It keeps me from having to ask my employees dumb questions.

    I use it to dig up info on stuff I don’t know about so I can make informed decisions or reduce the length of meeting because I can come prepared.

    People love to talk about slop like it is something new and can only be made by ai. Spoiler, people (such as the author of this dumb piece) have been making it for a long time.

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      I am a boss, too. Yes, we absolutely are. It’s straight up stupid to pretend this isn’t an emerging catastrophie today.

      “But not all bosses!” Etc, etc.

      Enough bosses.

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      Spot on. It eliminates some tedious busywork, which is nice, but it’s not a game changer for me, at least not yet.

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      If you are looking up something you don’t know about, how do you know the info provided us correct?