• AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    At this point, anyone that relies on a Google service is just asking for trouble.

    Yes they will kill off the thing you have grown reliant on, and so you’re better off to avoid anything with google

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      4 months ago

      That’s kinda been Google’s standard operating procedure from the start. Anything they get bored with, they bin. I have refused to adopt any of their tech for a long time because I watched them shutter good products all the time. They are too stochastic and too unreliable to trust with any important data.

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      5 months ago

      RIP Google Play Music. Have yet to find another streaming service who’s algorithm knew me so well to discover new music

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        5 months ago

        there were two things i loved. one i think was called turntable, which let you and friends take turns DJing. you’d queue up a song and then after your 2 or 3 or idk i usually used it with the same group friends got their plays in, you got yours. i don’t know what happened to it as we stopped using it.

        then was thesixtyone, which had great artist discovery. but they were not the best about getting licenses and lost their eventual IP lawsuit. after that they kind of turned into spotify. i’ve just been using my private collection since then.

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            5 months ago

            I am very confused

            I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought?

            Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube.

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              I’ve heard a conspiracy theory that says that the apps and services that Google dumps were experiments in data gathering and correlation. So basically they make a music platform like GPM, they use it to get a great music prediction algorithm, then kill the platform because what they wanted was the algorithm. They have money to burn so they don’t care about one more tiny revenue stream or about making a great music platform.

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                  4 months ago

                  Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There’s always something that can benefit from such insight.

                  The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there’s a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there’s more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that’s just location data.

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              Ahhh, that makes sense!

              Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn’t make one lick of sense

              Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn’t make any sense

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      We all love to rag on Google, but this is such a nonsense website. Most of the things “killed” there are superseded by another product, like AI studio replacing Firebase Studio and Google TV replacing Chromecast. Then there’s stuff nobody’s ever heard of just to pad the list.

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    4 months ago

    Love seeing how it seems like these tech giants are starting to try to fuck each other up. This will be fun.

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    5 months ago

    Tenor was quick, great, and optimal solution. I liked it.
    Google (Tenor) notified API Users around five months before June 30, 2026, the access restriction date:
    - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46628926

    Klipy is being offered as a direct alternative:
    - https://klipy.com/migrate

    Discord also migrated to Klipy about a month ago. Yesterday, I saw positive feedback in communities about Klipy’s more accurate search.

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      Worth noting that while Klipy is headed up by ex Tenor employees, Google has also heavily invested in Klipy.

      At my community (The Gamers’ Tavern) we ditched Discord (when all the age verification crap started) in favour of Discourse and Fluxer (Discord clone, but open source and self hostable) and currently Klipy integration is offering a sketchy and vague pricing model that is looking like it is going to include ads.

      So, that’s the vein that runs through all of this. Google killed Tenor, funded a new startup that’ll eventually likely be somewhere they can of course shove ads into.

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      5 months ago

      Tenor was always slow for me and had shit search.

      I didn’t know it was owned by Google, but now that I do it makes complete sense.

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        5 months ago

        May I ask what sense the “bad search” does in the scope of one of the most common and known advertisement business backed by their fundamentally crucial systems for search, statistics, and analytics?

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        5 months ago

        running a risk

        Your comment made me think of something I had not considered.

        Somewhere in this AI image generation infrastructure, there must be some poor asshole who has to look at whatever is made to say its OK or not. Which has to be at least as traumatic as doing the same thing for facebook or any site that has censorship. Or do they use the AI to vet the AI which causes issues like you describe?

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          “AI” CSAM detection is over a decade old, and apparently very accurate.

          It’s oldschool machine learning. Image hosts had no choice but to develop them.

          And legal authorities gave them access to datasets to make the detection models.

          I think Lemmy uses it. And it’s indeed implemented on “modern” AI sites like CivitAI, and very effective. If it’s ineffective somewhere (like Grok?) that means the owners are total idiots and should be sued.

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          honestly the best use of AI image recognition is to recognize illegal content. that spares humans the trauma. but you have to have a database of illegal content to train it on, so it’s a catch-22. also AI (LLMs in particular, so it’d need to be some other kind of ML program) is notorious for being wrong a lot. which means it still needs more human supervision than an AI that does its function properly.

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            Yeah that last line is what I was picturing. Ive messed around a little with AI chatbots and the amount of things that I know from my professional life that it got wrong was pretty astounding.

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              Which is why people mostly think “AI” will take over other jobs, but not theirs, cause it can’t even answer basic questions right on their field 🤔

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    5 months ago

    Whatever replaces Tenor needs to allow for more specificity in searching. If I search “lemur” and I see 3 orangutans, a chimp and a 12 gibbons, and maybe 1 actual lemur, I’m still happy to have simians, but I really needed a lemur, man. I was quite fucking specific in my search term. Had I written “monkey” but it showed me a series of apes, I wouldn’t mind that so much.

    Also, “cat on skateboard” has fuck all to do with a poorly staged video of a dog playing Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater with a set of gaming bongos. Again, glad to see it, but where’s my skateboarding cat??

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      4 months ago

      That is a good point, they’ve crammed ai slop into everything yet they can’t even fix something basic as image search.

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        4 months ago

        Instead of searching for existing gifs, Google will now pipe your search terms to Gemini so it will generate a gif for you.

  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    5 months ago

    Heads up that there is a self-hosted gif platform I’ve been tinkering on, original repo is here but it was more or less abandonded. I’ve been adding to it slowly here: Gifable.

    The base repo was good, a selfhosted Gif hosting, but I needed more integrations so I’ve been managing my own fork for about a year. The largest one is a way that Matrix servers can integrate, so it now actually stands up a matrix server and can federate your gifs with other matrix users. The second item is adding Giphy support (I had Tenor as well… but guess I’ll remove that), so you can alternatively search Giphy.

    I won’t say it’s polished, but if Tenor is leaving a sour note in your mouth, having someone else hosting would probably be neat.

    Screenshot: