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TikTok users have been deleting the app at a higher rate since the company announced that its U.S. operations would be housed in a new joint venture.
The short-form video platform’s daily average app uninstalls in the U.S. have increased nearly 150% over the past five days compared with the previous three months, market intelligence firm Sensor Tower told CNBC.
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If you are uninstalling, you can try the federated alternative: loops
It must be really demanding in terms of hardware and network to host video content like tiktok. I wonder if the fediverse voluntaries will be able to keep up with it if the userbase grows too much
I downloaded it. It’s very barren right now, no more than a few comments per post, if any. Hopefully it gains some traction
Think of it as an exclusive club where your content has a higher chance of being seen by elite users
Oof, this still isn’t up on F-Droid or either main app store. That’s a shame, I thought this moment would be a great time for Loops to get some user base, but it seems like it’s still not ready for wider adoption.
That said, it does look a lot better now than it did a few months ago when I last tried it. Here’s hoping it picks up some momentum. I finally tried TikTok last year, and was really impressed by the breadth of videos and how quickly it was able to start showing me things I enjoyed. With the recent change in ownership, I don’t know that I’ll revisit it much if at all. Would take quite a lot to replicate even a little bit of the zeitgeist TikTok had going. But like with Lemmy and Mastodon/Bsky, I’m hoping I can do my little part by choosing where to put my attention. Just don’t know that I’m going to find much there I care to see, for now.
Good. Fuck TikTok.
This is now a right wing propaganda machine. I deleted awhile ago.
Several social media posts pointed to language in the new policy that describes the types of data TikTok may collect, including sensitive information such as “your racial or ethnic origin” as well as “sexual life or sexual orientation, status as transgender or nonbinary, citizenship or immigration status, or financial information.”
Despite the social media uproar, that language does not appear to be new. An archived version of the policy from August 2024 includes the same provisions.
Never downloaded it…
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Up 150% sounds crazy… but like, what’s the rate of installs vs uninstalls here? How has the rate of installs changed?
Yeah if 4 people uninstalled the program last time, and 6 people uninstalled it this time, that’s a 150% increase from last time.
Nope. Your math is wrong. 6 people uninstalling would be a 50% increase from the 4 since 2 (the extra people uninstalling) is 50% of 4. For a 150% INCREASE you’d need 10 to uninstall (4 for the origional, 4 more for the extra 100%, and 2 on top of that for the extra 50%).
4 -> 6 would be a 50% increase, or 150% of the previous number. 4 -> 10 would be a 150% increase, or 250% of the previous number.
I feel like I remember the tankies saying something about there being no potential issues with using TikTok. Has there been any reaction in the triad?
Tiktok was THE platform for pro-gaza content and solidarity. Leaks from Congress proves this. It’s a shell of what it once was now that the US oligarchs are in control of it and have turned it into their right wing spyware platform.
Blocked for unironically using the word ‘tankie’.
I mean, you guys have legitimately genocidal folks like yogthos that your admins pat on the head as they bludgeon their way through every conversation with 4chan speak. I do not respect you enough to feel offended by your absence. If you don’t like the word, sort out your tankie users.
- What genocide is that?
- Do you deny the genocide of white South Africans. Because you should. Not every genocide accusation is true, and false ones should in fact be denied.
- Previously.
- Previously.
Armenian and Bosnian.
I genuinely have no clue about the goings on of any African nation, besides Kenya. And mostly just the soccer bits through a coworker. I wish I were informed enough to engage with you on what seems to be an accusation, but if something’s happened in South Africa and it doesn’t involve musk’s weird intrafamilial spouse trading family, I probably don’t know about it.
Your link’s dead
I don’t see yogthos in this, so I don’t- wait, you misunderstood. I said yogthos was a fan of genocide, not either of you admins. No, both you and your fellow dev just seem sleep starved and politically hugboxxy, not genocidey. Which you’re allowed to be, you made the site and it seems to take a lot of your time.
Though I wish you’d define the political hugbox a bit more explicitly in the sidebar. Banning for inobvious rules will always produce animosity from new users. You’re not doing yourselves any favors by hiding it behind euphemisms.
The only person I know who ever denied the Armenian genocide was Cenk Uygur, which he later walked back.
An Bosnian genocide is much more controversial. That the Srebrenica massacre constituted genocide had been refuted by a number of scholars, including Noam Chomsky, Edward Herman, and Michael Parenti.
I get that you want to stand by your most loyal users and political theory, but jfc
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Thanks for the generous proportions, I guess.
While installs are up by how much?
Doesn’t mention installs for tiktok, but does mention that tiktok usage remained flat, but competing apps have seen an increase in downloads.
"However, the increase in uninstalls has not translated into a meaningful drop in U.S. usage.
TikTok’s active user levels in the U.S. have remained relatively flat compared with the previous week, according to Sensor Tower.
Competing apps, however, have seen a bump in interest. Sensor Tower data shows U.S. downloads for UpScrolled increased more than tenfold compared with the prior week, while Skylight Social rose 919% and Chinese-owned Rednote climbed 53% week over week."
You can’t uninstall that which was never installed.
I find it funny that millions of people had no problem with an evil foreign government like the CCP, that’s well known for collecting data for military purposes and spending mind boggling amounts on propaganda campaigns, controlling the app, but now draw the line at some Silicon Valley billionaire doing essentially the same thing.
I never liked the short content format so I never had an interest downloading TikTok, but I knew that I would never, ever download it when I learned that this Chinese app is actually banned in China. They a have a separate clone of this app that’s exclusive to China that uses a different algorithm that promotes positive and educational content. The fact that billions of people use this shitty weaponized piece of Chinese spyware is depressing, especially when the Fediverse exists.
Well for starters - The United States government is kicking in doors in my local area right now.
The CCP would have to travel many thousand miles to kick in my door.
That’s a false sense of security. The CCP doesn’t need to kick down your door to weaponize your data. It should be common sense to not trust an authoritarian regime.
OK, as an American in the USA, what is the worst China can do to me with my “weaponized data” that is worse or the equivalent of me being tracked down and summarily executed a death squad which is the worst thing that the Trump regime can do with my data (which every US corporation is willing to hand over to them). It’s not that I trust the Chinese government. I just don’t care about them right now because my country is being destroyed by Nazis and find it bizarre that anyone would still be trying to sell us the “beware the Yellow Peril looming in the east!” neoliberal cold war horseshit.
Remember in the 80s when scary Japan was supposedly about to morph into some sort economic singularity and wipe us out with a thousand ultra mega Pearl Harbors all at once? Kind of reminds of the shit we hear about China today.
You know back then it was perfectly fine to be cozy with the PRC even as they propped up the murderous Khmer Rouge regime. But hey they illegally invaded Vietnam and cut ties with the Soviets so we loved them then. When Vietnam liberated Cambodia the official US narrative was that Vietnam was bullying the poor Khmer Rouge and the genocide was just a smear campaign to make our friend China look bad. Vietnam was the big bad yellow peril enemy then.
And now, Vietnam, still just as communist, still authoritarian, is our friend now!
Funny how the propaganda shifts like this depending on who’s befitting from it. Tomorrow it will be someone else. But go on about how this time the “Yellow Peril” threat is real this time.
What a load of bootlicking crap.
It’s very simple, if you’re willing to go to such lengths to defend China using spyware, collecting your data, and using it as they please… then why not go use Chinese social media yourself? If you think China is a non threat and all the concerns people have about it are fugazi, then why not go use their platforms? They’re bigger, have way more content, way more users, and they’re better developed than the Fediverse… again why you here if you don’t value things like privacy, freedom, ownership, and control over your data? It sounds to me like you have inconsistent values.
What is wrong with you? Are you even a person? Did you actually read what I said? Because this is boiler plate bot shit “why you defend China” (when I was fucking talking about the PRC’s support of the Cambodian Genocide?) is getting very tiresome.
Get some new material or go home. Fucking pathetic. It’s worse than talking to MAGA Nazis.
Did YOU read what you said?
Your entire spiel from before was literally nothing more than a collection of fallacies. You used a false equivalence by comparing worst case domestic repression (death squads) to foreign data misuse, which are fundamentally different types of risk and not logically comparable. It engages in whataboutism by deflecting concerns about China’s data access with references to American authoritarian threats, which doesn’t actually refute the original concern. The argument also builds a straw man by reducing all China related security worries to racist “Yellow Peril” panic, ignoring more nuanced, non racial critiques about state power and influence. Finally, it also leans on appeals to extreme outcomes and fear, invoking Nazis and executions to shut down debate rather than assess proportional, evidence based risks. Together, these fallacies prove two things: 1) You’re engaging in bad faith and 2) your points were inherently flawed and logically unsound.
Like what even is the thesis supposed to be, that the concerns about China aren’t real or serious because propaganda exists or because other threats exist? It’s such a nonsensical take. People aren’t concerned about China because of propaganda, they’re concerned because China’s actions, intentions, and track record raise a lot of red flags that are concerning. It doesn’t take a genius to see that something nefarious is going on with these Chinese apps. Like for example…
- Why is the international version of TikTok banned in China?
- Why does the domestic version of the app and the international one use different algorithms?
- The CCP has unrestricted control over all corporations in China, how much of the data collection is directly ordered from the government?
- There are reports from multiple countries stating that China is collecting massive amounts of data for military purposes, what are they collecting and why?
- China is also well known for spending tens of billions on propaganda campaigns, are they using the data from apps like TikTok to more effectively manipulate public opinions around the globe to further their interests?
- What about the secret police networks that the CCP has established in foreign cities where there’s large populations of ethnic Chinese residing? Countries around the globe have uncovered hundreds of these networks, is the CCP using this data to find, target, and silence dissent?
These are are valid concerns that you’re trying to conveniently dismiss because you’re either ignorant of them or you’re being dishonest. Like do you not find any of these things even slightly concerning? Trying to chalk up these legitimate concerns as nothing more than product of fearmongering and propaganda is the most intellectually lazy way to dismiss them because you can’t be bothered to parse through the implications and consequences.
If you don’t care about things like privacy, tyranny, freedom, ownership, safety, and the like then that’s your problem. However, just because you don’t care that doesn’t mean others don’t or that their concerns are product of propaganda. If anything that’s a more of a reflection of you and how your own beliefs came to be. Your stance, even if we ignore all the fallacies, isn’t even a principled one. At least what I’m saying is consistent and principled. You on the other hand? You’re acting smug over a disingenuous, fallacious, and inconsistent stance, it’s, as you would say, fucking pathetic.
Meanwhile https://joinloops.org/ and https://joinpeertube.org/ keep getting better and better
Hopefully more creators will take notice and at least crosspost their content on better platforms too.
for the one peertube server i wanted to follow something on, i couldnt figure out how to point the peertube ios app to an arbitrary peertube server. seems not in the fediverse spirit
The web instances work pretty well, that’s a shame the iOS app didn’t work for you. I’m only a consumer not a producer of video content so I interact with a fedi microblogging platform instead of having an account on a peertube platform itself. The Android app seemed okay but following users with RSS and interacting via my microblogging account, as well as directly checking my favorite platforms’ sites occasionally for serendipity seems to work the best for me.
I’m sure with the fundraising blitz the apps will get better too this year.
